Priests, worshippers stop attack at Nazareth basilica

| December 21, 2016 | 13 Comments

Priests and worshippers thwarted an attack by a man armed with sticks in the lower grotto of the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth, Israel, Dec. 18.

The man, later identified by police as a non-Jewish American in his early 40s, attempted to break items in the grotto with the sticks during the daily noon Angelus prayer.

He was overpowered by those present and held until the police arrived, said Wadie Abunassar, director of the Media Committee of the Assembly of Catholic Ordinaries of the Holy Land.

“Luckily there were no injuries and little damage,” said Abunassar.

Police later transferred the man to the hospital for psychological evaluation.

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  • AugustineThomas

    Satan owns the minds of all Secularists.

    • Dominic Deus

      What does secularism have to do with it? Please expand on your statement. Thank you.

      • AugustineThomas

        There is proper Christian secularism, developed by St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Thomas More, Duns Scotus, Erasmus, etc. Secularists pervert the concept to the point that it’s something entirely different. They remove Christ, who is the basis of the development of proper secularism, and they make their love of sin the major selling point, calling it “freedom from religion”. They are the Immoral Majority.

        • Dominic Deus

          Dear Augustine: Ok, you’ve given me something to work with other than Satan who is more or less invoked in the same way as Hitler–intended to be a conversation stopper. BUT…the conversation is unstoppable and goes on to this day. For that reason, I advise reading about a more contemporary view of secularism, by which I mean in the last 100 years or so. Old is not always best; sometimes it’s just old.

          Please do not take my remarks below as criticizing you personally. They are not. What follows is my present opinion as a scholar of world religions. Take it or leave it. I sometimes leave it myself!

          Duns Scotus?. It’s import to remember that he was a not very bright star in the theological night sky and tended to argue from the desired end backwards using whatever reverse reasoning worked. Actually, in this regard he was not a bad representative for armchair theologians, judgementalists, fundamentalists, and of course some politicians. He ultimately concluded that human reason was inferior to revelation and therefore secularism was not merely inferior to spiritualism but should subordinate it self to religion. That doesn’t play well in the 21st century.

          Freedom from religion is, indeed, a very important concept because, if taken to heart, it protects us from having to embrace someone else’s religion against our will but it is not central to secularism. Good idea though.

          Augustine, some of whose works occupy the table next to my library chair is a book club friend of mine. I love reading his words which are, in some cases, are so transparently those of young man. He was working with very little history behind him but did very well with a combination of faith and reason which is a good basis for being skeptical of those who are incapable of doing so.

          He is the one who gave us the strong distinction between the City of God and the City of [People]. He did not condemn the “secular city” and essentially invoked the concept of complementarity (my word). He, BTW, was a favorite of Pope Benedict.

          My view is that, in some degree, contemporary anti-seculrists have missed the boat. The Roman Church was very worried about the concept of a world view based on reason because it would undermine the authority of the Church, which ultimately came to claim authority over King and Country. As you know, that ended badly.

          The secular boat has sailed except this it’s more like the Starship Enterprise and is driven by exploration and powered by knowledge. There are plenty of spiritual encounters to be had out there and if religion (a social construct,remember) wants to come along it has to revisit its faith, and search for relevance and truth.

          And that applies to all religions. At least, I think so. One can never be sure about these things. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4225fc5468b660b9049eb175a104fbb6be9f74632f7326a872c22334a37b1998.jpg

          • AugustineThomas

            I’m sorry but I can’t really take you seriously. You’re a fool and you’re pretending to dispense with the arguments of the men who built your civilization and gave you your fat, easy modern life.

            It’s an absolute fact that the Flynn Effect has been reversed since Secularists took over the formerly Christian educational system. You guys are making yourselves stupid.

            I hope someday that you’ll look at Christianity with an open mind and really grapple with the genius of men like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, not to mention St. Thomas More, Duns Scotus, Erasmus, etc.

            God bless you!

          • Dominic Deus

            We are all fools in our own way. The important thing is to know it.

            I don’t dispense with the arguments of great thinkers–I read them and ask “Does that still make any sense?” It is absolutely the case that we see as far as we do because we stand on the shoulders of giants, but we don’t live in the 12th century. It is incumbent on us to see in the light of the nine centuries since then.

            If we are not careful, we can find ourselves relaxing in the comfort or old knowledge rather than asking “What are some possible sources of error here? What has changed in culture, sociology, physics, medicine, war, peace or politics that requires a new Augustine or a new Thomas.” Maybe will will find that we must write or speak knowing that others may find us fools. Let them. The conversation continues.

            Case in point: Years ago, the Encyclopedia Britannica published a massive work titled “The Great Books of the Western World–the Substance of a Liberal Education”. Fifty four volumes.

            Volume 1 is titled “The Great Conversation” and is emphatic in stating that it is necessary to engage the great minds of the past in dialogue, not merely read what they wrote.

            Volumes 2 and 3 are a syntopicon of “great ideas” (arranged alphabetically of course) from *Angel to Love* and *Man to World*

            Augustine and Aquinas are in it, back to back. Duns Scotus is not, but it could have been a case of cultural prejudice–it’s the Encyclopedia *Britannica*, after all. God Save the Queen and all that. Maybe I owe him a read–I wear a kilt sometimes and I haven’t noticed it making me dumber. (The McFlynn effect).

            I bought the set at a library rummage sale for five dollars years ago. Maybe you are right and secularism ruined the library, now it has free online access to everything. People can look up anything. God help us.

            I hope to hear from you again!

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          • Dominic Deus

            “I’m sorry but I can’t really take you seriously…” As a safety precaution,I advise never saying that again. Look who is going to be President in seven days.

          • AugustineThomas

            There are plenty of truths that are timeless. In the year 5960, if Christ hasn’t returned in glory yet, murder will still be wrong and the majority of the teachings of St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas will still be valid and completely applicable to the problems that exist then. More importantly, the true teachings of the Church will still all be valid.
            Christianity built modernity using Christ’s now 2,000 year old wisdom. In the year 500 AD, they were using “centuries old wisdom” and it still worked. We can use the wisdom that has been accumulated since then.

            Anyway, give specific examples of the teachings of the Church or the great thinkers in the Church that are past their expiration dates and thus no longer valid. I bet I can make a compelling argument that they’re every bit as meaningful as the day they were first proposed based on Christ’s wisdom and the Holy Spirit.

            God bless you!

          • Dominic Deus

            “The game is on!” –Sherlock Holmes, Secularist, Humanist, Rationalist, Social Incompetent.

            “Well, not exactly…”–Dominic Deus, All of the Above Except Quite Skilled Socially.

            Dear Augustine Thomas,

            YOU are the great apologist for the Ancient Wisdom of the Fathers of the Church. I’m the skeptic who says “Yes, you were great then but I need to see your greatness now.” And I do, sometimes not always. It’s up to you to tell our readers a Universal Truth that has been ignored and I agree there are many but you get to set the stage.

            Still, I so enjoy dialogue to bickering so I will give you this:

            Orignal Sin is BS. Augustine invented it to explain why a holy and pious young man such as himself could have been corrupted into lusty sex with his father’s servant girls. It felt so good and fogged his senses so totally that it must have been the work of Satan.

            Unfortunately for him, he did not have Dr. Dominic Deus to advise him: “Augie, it was your adolescent hormones. You were driven by a desire to reproduce which, technically, is a good idea since most people die before age thirty seven. However, if you want universal truth to write about, try this one: You can love the girls but don’t make them pregnant.”

            So Orignal Sin was a contrivance to explain why everyone was just as soiled as Augustine and it gave Augie something to feel guilty about with no other real world consequences–for him anyway.

            Of course the original Original Sin occurred when “that woman” tempted Adam into eating from the Tree of Knowledge which is actually one of the more charming metaphors I have ever heard for a young man and woman surrendering their virginity to each other and gaining the knowledge that life is complicated but filled with wonder.

            Speaking of which, I wonder if Augustine ever considered that he would have been just a cosmic no-nothing if Eve hadn’t sweetly seduced Adam. Of course none of that ever happened and the Creation Stories are just that but let us move on.

            Collective guilt is a hallmark of the Roman Church to this day and Augustine invented it. Sort of. Collective guilt was a staple of Judaism and we actually inherited it. Most Jews I know these days disavow it as does the Orthodox Church, which never recognized it and btw, pays little heed to Augustine’s writings as a whole.

            Below is a picture of a baby girl, guilty of absolutely nothing at birth and heir to the collective guilt and foolishness of her elders only if she allows them to bother her with their ignorance, stupidity, or both.

            My advice to her is to get an education, find a job and not get pregnant until she’s ready to be a mother. Be skeptical of self-proclaimed wisdom, keep a close eye on authority, and love as many people as God sends you to love but don’t let the boys make you pregnant. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1413639fb7ed6040b69119bd38513a7956c536722b690bac55b6fbbc7b399273.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49a648535baa31e2c726e6007f0761f0a59d6a169b09f16fe2da67a14116cc37.jpg

          • AugustineThomas

            You really need to get help with your mental issues.

            Original sin originated with the Jews and the Old Testament. (Please see Adam and Eve.) St. Augustine was a devout, orthodox Christian.

            God save your soul from the mental illness you’ve imposed upon yourself with your morally bankrupt Secularist beliefs.

          • Dominic Deus

            Well, I tried (sigh).

          • Dominic Deus

            Amazing! I had no idea you were so prolific. You post on Breitbart? You must be an expert on mental illness! Just remember I’m here to help if you get in over your head.??????????????????

          • AugustineThomas

            I don’t think this is going anywhere. I wish you the best in your life! God bless you!